Well, when mama found out, she threw a fit. Not a word of a lie, early 70s, my sister had just gotten her photo of her wee black baby and was in my grannys house showing her it, one of my uncles looks at it, laughs, disappears upstairs and about half an hour later comes down with his scraps box, complete with several pictures of his black babies as collected when he was at school in the 50s, and there, in his pile, was the same baby (albeit in higher quality and printed on better paper). They were befuddled . A bulletin board held the certificates, pinned to the wall. Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. I cant guarantee your sanity , but Im happy to have helped . Steve Stahley. Im glad youu got a kick out of it . Read 283 reviews from the world's largest community for readers. You may be a pagan , but I think youre too late . I still have the ransom certificate to prove it. Always when he asked his question , no matter what the occasion , he seemed to be right smack dab in the middle of the group . Great sounding rare live tape here by Philadelphia's own PAGAN BABIES from mid 1988. Thanks for the comment . I spent all my paper boy money." We had the cardboard boxes and there was stiff competition In return they were given a decorative certificate commemorating their maybe he rode to work on a bike . I went to Marymount Jr. School in the 60s too. In the background it shows mosques, pagodas, etc, all the better to drive home the horrors wed saved him from. If they're actually disabled, they can file the application with the city to get a handicap spot installed. Some became doctors and lawyers and schoolteachers and others became lay catechists, sisters and priests, operating clinics and schools, colleges and seminaries, Father Small explained, and let me tell you something they need your help today as much as they needed it 30 and 40 years ago. We, the four oldest who got those tiny banks with a coin slot in the top, were convinced that our small amounts of money (most of which we found on the street while walking home from school, a lot of pennies) would buy us a Little Brown Pagan Baby that we would name Harry (I don't remember why) and that Jesus would love us for that purchase. Really thought I was saving a baby!" The Church doesnt have a mission. The nuns encouraged us to bring in our pennies and when we saved up five bucks, bingo!, we bought a baby. Maybe it was a Toledo thing?! . Whether or not they converted is one thing, giving up their cultural ties is quite another. This reading is starting to stir up memories of holy water, chapel caps, rosaries that lit up a green color in the bed at night, memorizing the Catechism in case the Arch-Bishop asked me a question at our Confirmation, being chosen to carry up the gifts, and on and on. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. Congratulations for moving on and helping children in other countries. Bury it beneath your front step or porch during a full moon. Theres the priority. we got prizes if we gave X amount, but I never got a prize. Labeling any baby pagan, much less sweeping into this category all foreign children of color, makes me look back with embarrassment. Their adopted Pagan Babies were then given the Sacrament of Baptism. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who once said, My greatest love has always been the missions of the church, was very much a spiritual presence at the dinner, where his name was invoked several times. Fierce competition existed between some of the nuns as to whose class had the most pagan babies. But Father Small, national director of the Pontifical Mission Societies in the United States, wasnt apologizing for the old adoption program in which children in Catholic schools would save their pennies. talking about!" When Oblate Father Andrew Small asked who remembered them at the inaugural World Mission Dinner in New York, a few hands went up, mostly belonging to people with gray hair. Oh, my, what memories! And most students did sacrifice that 5-cent candy money for the cause of bringing the word of god to the uneducated families somewhere in the world that the missionaries, usually Maryknolls stil active in missionary work today were working to convert the pagans usually Africa, in my day (probably deepest, darkest Africa). Great mix of early US HC punk & the then emerging "Youth Crew" sound. He didnt say that the big winner was the salesman himself , who had spent only a couple of hours with the principal and with the students but now had three hundred children who would be desperately trying to sell his candy for the next two weeks . When you get to heaven have it in your pocket . Not many hands went up. Needless to say, by the time I graduated from Dominican there wasnt an iota of true Catholicism left in me, other than the bit I faked for a while to protect my Moms feeling. Campbell, now retired from the film industry where he worked as a technician, told CNY that hed been enrolled in the Holy Childhood Association since seventh grade and that he remembered adopting babies to get them baptized into the faith. NOT catholic, hallelujah. Or for the poor, underprivileged kids in the USA? I would hope that the Catholic schools are more sophisticated too . Well , I havent met any pagan (baby) Davids running around , but no pagan (baby) Patricias , either . however, rings true today. . Two stories I recall from those days: one boy in my room kept bringing in UNBELIEVABLY large amounts every day (. ETA, not such a dimly remembered memoir after all; google remembered it for me. Thanks for the interest. My family Lived out that way. In fourth grade I was finally old enough to see the movies they showedwith shots of real lepers and starving children. I suspect that Patricia never named them after you , David . Anybody have some spare change ? 1969 From Pioneer to Poet by Isabelle Pagan, vintage Astrology book zodiac Thanks for commenting! You stir up a lot of old memories for me , too . - Betty L. As I write this I still feel the hurt and frustration 50 years later. Remember the "Pagan Babies"? Its a great way to perform works of mercy or give alms during Lent or find a family charity. The missionary spirit was evident as Pontifical Mission Societies honored three people at the May 2 gala. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. "I think they cost five dollars." But Im a bit cynical . I went to Catholic grade school at St. Amelias for 8 years. What does it look like to be conquered by the fire of Christs gaze, as Benedict XVI described? Those who would like to know what became of their pagan babies will soon get a chance to find out when Pontifical Mission Societies formally launches its Great Works Campaign in the coming months. https://www.ncregister.com/blog/where-did-all-the-pagan-babies-go. I thought the amount was $10, but $5 does sound more realistic. The early pagan catches the change . Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, Ne. Remember what he said? Cary Cox stole a five dollar bill from his mothers purse when we were in fourth grade so that Cary could pick the name of the next pagan baby himself . Wowi do remember that now that you mention it. Marymount ? David. It was probably a good lesson in giving for us little ones ; but , the money - probably not a huge sum overall - ? Long time ago . HELLO!!!!!!!! - Mary A. is the gateway to life in the Spirit, and the door which gives access to the other I have my doubts that any of ours got past downtown L.A. Every month after the money was collected, a students name was randomlypicked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the Pagan Baby of the Month. Certificates were horizontally displayed above the green & yellow cursive writing examples atop the blackborads. The mission has a Church, Cardinal Dolan reminded his guests in his opening remarks. All good saints names . Its to raise money for the school , the salesman countered . "I loved Pagan Babies. What gyp. Learn how your comment data is processed. those babies. My grandmother gave me $5 to buy my Shed be about 70 now! These days, instead of collection boxes we can use apps. If we sold a certain amount wed get a plastic statue of Mary and Jesus. Design by. by reneeqyancy | Feb 9, 2010 | Blog | 8 comments. I have often wondered whatever happened to my pagan baby Beverly Anne. I always thought it was amazing that I could have this baby and name her and feed her forever! Now I am teaching fourth grade in a little Catholic school in Venice . THANK YOU for truly capturing a historical phenomenon! I went to a public school. Youre stirring up memories . A lot of your story is fiction. Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the Church and made sharers in her mission ( CCC 1213), Scripture stresses the importance of this sacrament. I also had a more personal reason for hitting the $5 markthe point at which you actually saved a baby and got naming rights. Only we had to write JMJD, for Dominic, as ours were Dominican nuns. Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up? Yeah . Along the way, in all the villages we passed through, there were people who were full of joy to see young people. Of course, we collected money in the little paper boxes " for the missions" and I seem to remember something about either the school or each class "adopting"one of the mission children. Names chosen for each baby were REQUIRED to be the names of bonefide saints, beatified by process through Rome. Servant of God Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, who once said, My greatest love has always been the missions of the Church, was very much a spiritual presence at the dinner, where his name was invoked several times. The price of adoption was five dollars, and "I remember those." I still think of those days and have many wonderful memories. Thanks for the comment . Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behavior or unique IDs on this site. I dont remember what exactly the certificates were certifying Im assuming that little Christine Marie had been duly baptized but I know when we were younger we were told that we were buying the pagan babies. Im still a San Franciscan, but boy has everything changed. ( Sorry for the delay. - Bob H. Pagan babies are certainly a unique experience us Catholic schoolkids share! Or maybe Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. Pagan Babies is classic crime fiction from the master of suspense, New York Times bestselling author Elmore Leonard. Even though I later went on to become a Catholic priest (and later resigned and married), my robust suspicion that Catholicism did not have all the answers began to take root way back in my young Catholic boyhood. Other notable guests included Cardinal Sean P. OMalley of Boston; Bishop Bejoy N. DCruze of Sylhet, Bangladesh; actor Andy Garcia, who stars in the upcoming film For Greater Glory; and Noel Campbell, who rode Amtrak for three days from the Coeur DAlene Indian Reservation in northwest Idaho to attend the event. "I remember Pagan Babies!" No one was, in fact, adopted or bought. Good story about your uncles revelation Ah , the mendacity of the whole thing ! You never know what I might post about next! now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. Im not sure at this point for whom we were collecting I supposed it could have been UNICEF, or perhaps a Catholic charity. Found this page while looking for something completely different, the unexpected joys of broken algorithmic search engines. I think it has something to do with the "Poor starving babies overseas" that people send money to when they donate at Church, but I'm not sure. Instead, she found Jesus Christ. Whats a pagan ? I also remember something about a bridge . - Ann C. I guess we survived . Please log in to comment by clicking here, Fordhams Greenhagen Finalist for National Scholar-Athlete Award. Right, but there must be some type of guidelines that must be met for that to happen. The thing was a brown color . Im sure thats where the money went. I assume that all of the other Catholic schools in the archdiocese were doing the same thing . Sometimes disabilities don't fall along "guidelines" and some people just need a little extra help. Theology should be at the heart of any Catholic university. I remember this in Chicago St. John Fisher. maybe NCIS or 60 minutes should get on the case? I also remember buying 10 cent stamps that went into a book. A different time ; a different place . So how many pagan babies did you sell in Brentwood ? Linda A. McMillin is a professor of history at Susquehanna University. Well I am hurt that you would think I would steal your money to Buy and Name more pagan babies. Plot summary. Other Brookliners Remember Adopting I found a bunch of them in my moms cedar chest she saved all of them! I went to catholic school the same time you did. if you can open your heart and you want to do something to help, PLEASE donate here to the Gonzalez Family . A lot of people never knew what I was It wasnt a huge effort at our school, Christ the King in Pleasant Hill, CA, and im sure i sold very few as my parents were not very supportive of that kind of fundraising. Timothy Bulone, Neighbor. Possibly the nuns coerced the kids in those classes into giving more? The Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii) Jason Woycke 9 subscribers Subscribe 62 Share 2.2K views 5 years ago A compilation of live footage of the Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii). 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