He's a former British intelligence officer who served in Washington, D.C., and in Pakistan and eventually leaves the British Secret Intelligence Service and develops some relationship with Erik. They've targeted CNN. So somebody was just waiting - and it turned out to be me and Mark - to come along and make the connection between the Sofia de LaRocca (ph) out in Wyoming and "Maria," quote, unquote, on the Project Veritas Exposed website. Is he actually providing those kinds of services? } You know, you say in one of these stories, this operation's use of spy craft to manipulate the politics of several states over the years greatly exceeds the tactics of traditional political tricks operations. DAVIES: Did any of these result in resignations, firings, criminal investigations GOLDMAN: You know, and in the end, the people who were involved, I think, were, you know, slightly humiliated. GOLDMAN: In some instances, they were on, you know, these social - these dating apps, right? Not saying this is the case with Mr. O'Keefe, but it's sort of hard to fundraise that way if you're only doing one thing a year or if it's - you know, there are long periods of silence between each expose. DAVIES: Let me reintroduce you again. GOLDMAN: I don't know if misrepresenting yourself to - and getting a job at a Democratic organization is a crime. Prince took on the role of celebrity pitchman, according to interviews and documents, raising money for Mr. Seddons spying operation, which was aimed at gathering dirt that could discredit politicians and activists in several states. I have always understood him to be a resident of Northern Virginia, the lead writer of The Intercepts April story, Matthew Cole, wrote in a declaration. The job put her in a position to gain valuable information about which Republican candidates the group was supporting with independent advertising. DAVIES: Right. Defendants wrote and published a false and defamatory article about a Wyoming residents Wyoming-based business activities knowing that it would cause harm principally in Wyoming, New York attorney Matthew Schwartz charged in one filing. GOLDMAN: I believe that O'Keefe has interacted with Trump. Mr. Despite making multiple comments about Princes ties to Virginia, The Intercepts legal team said its immaterial to their jurisdictional arguments, which center on the publications own lack of ties to Wyoming. Prince noted he owned a home in Wyoming and had been connected to the state since 1992. zoneId = '8'; Its among a number of issues and motions that will have to be sorted out before a judge or jury would consider the accuracy of The Intercepts April article. Ledeen said "someone she trusted" contacted her to help with the McMaster operation. The two men had known each other since Mr. Princes days running Blackwater, and shared an affinity for guns and the American West. Oct. 21, 2020. You know, this is something we haven't seen, right? We are speaking with Adam Goldman. And I think the Intercept geolocated that photo and determined it was Erik Prince's ranch. So there has been - the two have interacted, I think, even before Trump was president. You know, they were angry too, right? This item is available in full to subscribers. At the time I signed my [September] declaration I believed Jones Creek and CMNS to be Wyoming entities, but I have subsequently learned they are not; I believe they are Delaware entities, Prince wrote in the document, which he signed from California. And they were doing this - it appears that they were doing this from the house where Beau and Sofia lived with others. Last month, Project Veritas made public secretly recorded video of a longtime ABC News correspondent who was critical of the networks political coverage and its emphasis on business considerations over journalism. A former British spy and Republican mega-donor Erik Prince, a founder of the private military contractor Blackwater (now rebranded as "Academi) and brother to former U.S. Education Secretary. Of course, everybody's familiar with Watergate, right? And they admitted doing, you know - engaging in political activity while working for these government institutions, which Project Veritas asserted was, you know, wrong or even, you know - I can't remember if they said it was illegal or not. Last year, the House Intelligence Committee made a criminal referral to the Justice Department about Mr. Was he primarily the guy who got this thing moving? Mr. Seddon owns a cabin that he keeps stocked with guns, food and other supplies as preparation for a cataclysmic event in the United States. "He is not registered in Park County or [Wyoming] presently, unless he is not going by Erik Dean Prince and has changed his name," Park County Elections Deputy Pat Cole said in a Sept. 17 email; he said Prince hadn't voted in Wyoming since 2000. NY Times reporter Adam Goldman describes an undercover effort, headed up by an avid Trump supporter, that trained conservatives in espionage techniques and sent them to dig up dirt on progressives. What kind of inroads did they make? Emails sent to Mr. Seddon went unanswered. Mr. Seddons recruitment of Mr. Female undercover operatives tried to entrap FBI agents, sometimes using fake dating app profiles, and State Department employees, the Times reports. If he enters the race, he would be challenging Republican incumbent John Barrasso in the 2018 primaries, with the encouragement of Steve Bannon. The emails refer to other operations, including weekly case updates, along with training activities that involved operational targeting. Project Veritas redacted specifics about those operations from the messages. DAVIES: They targeted ACORN. When does he do this, and do we know why? In an archived version of her LinkedIn page, Ms. Jorge wrote she had a deep interest in the conservative movement and hoped one day to serve on the Supreme Court after attending law school. And so I was able to piece that together. The woman was claiming she had been impregnated by the Senate candidate, thinking that The Washington Post would be so excited to get dirt about a conservative that they would publish a bogus story. What are traditional political dirty tricks? For example, Rolling Stone published an investigative piece in October, The New York Times broke the news of Princes potential run on Oct. 8, 2017, in another interview with Breitbart a few days later, identified the site as the Prince ranch in a 2019 article, asserting Prince participated in a plan to dampen turnout among Black voters, Powered by Creative Circle Media Solutions. He was the one who replaced Michael Flynn after he was fired. contractor who is best known as the founder of the private military firm Blackwater and whose sister, Betsy DeVos, was Mr. Trumps education secretary has drawn scrutiny over the years for Blackwaters record of violence around the world and his subsequent ventures training and arming foreign forces. Jim Mattis, then the defense secretary, rejected the idea. DAVIES: But the idea was that these public officials or FBI agents were secretly - they were part of the deep state. And, you know, I'm not sure when the relationship started. Valued at roughly $12 million by the Park County Assessors Office, the property includes a 17,470-square-foot residence that ranks among the largest in the area; county records show Prince owns a smaller home on an adjoining 10-acre parcel. The New York Times published an article chronicling a Wapiti, Wyoming-based espianoge effort. For example, the co-authors of the piece in dispute, Cole and Alex Emmons, say theyre New York and Washington, D.C., residents whove never been to Wyoming. Ms. Jorge was eventually exposed and kicked out of the campaign office. It also seems, to me, murky. I have a Wyoming drivers license, I am a Wyoming resident, and exploration is underway, Prince said of his potential Senate bid. DAVIES: Adam Goldman is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for The New York Times. Mr. OKeefe earned about $387,000. Erik Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has at times served as an informal adviser to Trump administration officials. These were videos of - you know, in one case, Democrats or people working for the government who were - you know, it seemed like they were slow rolling the president's agenda or trying to thwart it or using - they were part of, you know, the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America. DAVIES: That's a really fascinating example of the power of, you know, database reporting now because you knew they were doing the thing in Georgetown, but their campaign contributions in Wyoming have to be publicly reported. He was leading training. ', Death toll keeps rising in Greece's deadliest train crash, US Attorney General Merrick Garland testifies before Senate Judiciary Committee, Lineup announced for this years Capitol Hill Block Party, There's no shortage of salt for NYC roads, Temple University students march and protest to demand better safety. You know, a big question about the stories that you've described is, is this activity illegal, what the couple did in Wyoming, you know, presenting themselves as - dishonestly as active Democrats in order to get information? They make significant political contributions, right? This is FRESH AIR. She was involved in that. DAVIES: What are Erik Prince's contacts or associations with Donald Trump and the Trump family? He is married to an American diplomat, Alice Seddon, who is serving in the American consulate in Lagos, Nigeria. And this photo of James O'Keefe, who's, you know, the founder of Project Veritas, firing a weapon with a silencer, apparently, at Erik Prince's ranch - were they being trained in firearms there? document.write (document.charset ? GOLDMAN: It's my understanding that they met during a training at the Prince ranch in Wyoming in the spring of '17 and then grew closer over time. This is when there was the special Senate election in Alabama, right? The training was done by a guy - a lot of the training was done by a guy named Richard Seddon, S-E-D-D-O-N. Who is he? But then they got reversed stung by the Post, which was quite a moment. He worked with the former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn during the presidential transition. "Somebody who had his calendar conveyed to me that he goes to Tosca all the time," she said, and she passed the information on to a man she believed to be a Project Veritas operative with a fake name. As further evidence of his ties to Wyoming and the business he conducts in the state, Princes initial declaration said he owned several operating entities registered to his residence in Wapiti. But when I learned about Beau and Sofia last year - there's a website, Project Veritas Exposed. And this is FRESH AIR. - not quick-hit videos or, you know, shorter-term operations, which I think people say Mr. O'Keefe wanted to do. They were, in fact, going to use a former Project Veritas operative named Tarah Price, who lives in the Dallas area, to, you know, possibly ensnare McMaster at a restaurant, get him to say something ill toward or maybe negative about Trump, something that would compromise him. GOLDMAN: It's not clear to me. And they thought McMaster had fired, you know, several people who the president had brought on and - or Mike Flynn, his former - his first national security adviser had brought on. You know, O'Keefe has clearly raised a lot of money, you know, millions of dollars. With @Project_Veritas's special training, we will be the next great intelligence agency. Prince appears to have become interested in using former spies to train Project Veritas operatives in espionage tactics sometime during the 2016 presidential campaign. WASHINGTON Erik Prince, the security contractor with close ties to the Trump administration, has in recent years helped recruit former American and British spies for secretive. The Powell Tribune has expanded its online content. And ultimately, it did blow up in their face. Overall, how do conservatives regard Project Veritas? Mr. Seddon was a longtime British intelligence officer who served around the world, including in Washington in the years after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It is, instead, an entity dedicated to a specific political agenda.. 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WASHINGTON Erik Prince, the security contractor with close ties to the Trump administration, has in recent years helped recruit former American and British spies for secretive intelligence-gathering operations that included infiltrating Democratic congressional campaigns, labor organizations and other groups considered hostile to the Trump agenda, according to interviews and documents. Richard Seddon, in 2018, I guess, decided to stop working with Project Veritas. And I realized they were giving money to Democrats in Wyoming, Arizona and Colorado. 'https://powellbanners.creativecirclemedia.com/www/delivery/ajs.php':'http://powellbanners.creativecirclemedia.com/www/delivery/ajs.php'); You know, was it effective? Project Veritas tax filings list Mr. Halderman as a project manager.. In particular, you know, Sofia targeted a employee with the GAO. His attorneys allege the outlet is trafficking in lies, showed an obvious and intentional disregard for the truth and effectively made Prince out to be a traitor. Mr. At the time, Prince was exploring the possibility of mounting a Republican primary challenge to incumbent U.S. Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo. This is FRESH AIR. Mr. And, you know, these were - they were not really long-term operations. Although he owns a home in Wapiti, Prince is not generally known as a Wyoming businessman. Mr. He's, you know, the private military contractor. That's a strawman campaign donation. Two weeks later, on Oct. 14, Prince submitted a new sworn statement in his defamation case, in which he acknowledged he had not registered to vote in Wyoming in 2017. Tell us about them. Mr. One target in particular was Gov. That's how you found them, and that's what raised the question? We rely on our journalists to be independent observers. They also did the secret interviews at the airport in Cody in the - at the Prince hangar. GOLDMAN: Erik Prince is the well-known founder of Blackwater, the security contractors who were involved in the massacre in Iraq. And, of course, that was an entree into a larger circle of prominent Democrats. It was unclear whether Mr. Seddon was involved in planning that operation. And, of course, this was really weird because they work for Project Veritas. GOLDMAN: No. DAVIES: Right. Prince said he thought hed registered to vote when hed obtained a Wyoming drivers license in October 2017. One celebrated alum: Betsy DeVos's brother, Erik Prince, 49, the swashbuckling military contractor who has come to the serious attention of investigators looking into the Trump team's alleged. Mr. Seddon wrote that Ms. Jorge copied a great many documents from the file room, and Mr. OKeefe bragged that the group would be able to get a ton more access agents inside the educational establishment.. And I certainly don't think he thought he was going to get dragged into this. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. They were going to bug it. In fact, I wrote a memo about what I had found. But if the case was transferred to New York, that states laws could apply. All rights reserved. DAVIES: And then Beau and Sofia married, right? Months later, in June 2019, a report said we are expecting a big haul, including new lines of intelligence on the Republican side of the house.. And then Mark Mazzetti, you know, my colleague, who just is an extraordinary journalist, we - you know, we managed to suss out what was going - we think - to a great degree what was going on in Wyoming and these other states. And then as I sort of gathered - started to gather information on this, I knew this was going to be a story. If you would like to purchase a subscription click here. DAVIES: What did you learn about how Beau and Sofia met? I mean, he - it seems that - it's our understanding that Prince introduced Seddon to Project Veritas. And we've written about that. document.write ("?zoneid="+zoneId+"&block=1&blockcampaign=1"); Did you receive the spare camera yet?. That's a name some people will know. They were undercover conservative operatives, the paper discovered, who had been trained at a ranch belonging to Blackwater founder Erik Prince by a former MI6 officer with ties to the right-wing . DAVIES: Let me reintroduce you again. officer who went on to win an important House seat in Virginia as a Democrat. Erik Prince Helped Raise Money for Conservative Spy Venture, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/us/politics/erik-prince-spy-operation-trump-democrats.html. But I didn't reveal that I knew Beau and Sofia had lived at that house at the time because we were working - concurrently, we were working on this larger story about them. document.write ("&loc=" + escape(window.location)); GOLDMAN: That's a good question. Adam Goldman is a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for The New York Times. And, I mean, they were both active, but she was literally, you know, infiltrating these Democratic groups. Accuracy and availability may vary. Published October 16, 2017. GOLDMAN: Well, some people have speculated this was some sort of back channel to Russia because there was a - I believe there was a Russian investment manager there who has ties to Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia. DAVIES: What was on those videos? And it's a fascinating story. When a muckraking news site published a story alleging private security contractor and Blackwater founder Erik Prince had offered his services to a Russian mercenary firm, the connections to Wyoming were not obvious; the state was never mentioned in the piece. Connor Wroe Southard. DAVIES: Right. Mr. For instance, Princes 2014 memoir said he splits his time between homes in Virginia and Abu Dhabi, where he pursues a variety of business ventures.. DAVIES: Right. So flesh out the picture a bit. The Powell Tribune was unable to learn Princes voter history from 2002 and 2017. There was a massacre at a plaza in Iraq. And Prince comes up in the special council report - Robert Mueller's report. GOLDMAN: Yes, very wealthy and very conservative. Erik Prince, founder of private . Currently, Prince leads a Hong Kong-based firm providing security, logistics, insurance and infrastructure services in parts of Africa and other high-conflict areas. It's not clear to me how close he is to Trump. A document that month said that Mr. Seddons operatives had identified three potential sources in the new governors administration and have begun accelerated cultivations with a view to early recruitment., Later in January, the operatives wrote that they had successfully recruited another source with a role in the new governors administration, adding that the source has agreed to provide insights, help expose corruption and assist with eventual placement of undercovers.. DAVIES: Wow. Efforts to locate Mr. Thomas were unsuccessful. Prince invited Project Veritas operatives including Mr. OKeefe to his familys Wyoming ranch for training in 2017, The Intercept reported last year. GOLDMAN: To my understanding, there was a disagreement in how Project Veritas should be run. So, you know, this is not something I had ever done as a - you know, this is not something journalists do. DAVIES: Right - Erik Prince, the security contractor who we'll talk more about. Prince a former C.I.A. Mr. Princes role in the effort, which has not been previously disclosed, sheds further light on how a group of ultraconservative Republicans employed spycraft to try to manipulate the American political landscape. But it was not her real name. Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater, a private security contractor firm used extensively by the administration of George W Bush, is said to be "seriously considering" challenging Wyoming. What did they show? At the time, Ms. Spanberger was running to unseat a sitting Republican congressman in a race both parties considered important for control of the House. And it all kind of went south when the Post exposed it. Adam Goldman, welcome back to FRESH AIR. We're speaking with New York Times reporter Adam Goldman, one of a team of Times reporters who've been writing about an effort by conservatives to train operatives in undercover operations to infiltrate progressive groups, unions and the offices and campaigns of Democratic and moderate Republican candidates and elected officials. The campaign discovered the operative and fired her. Erik Prince, a political novice and former Navy SEAL who made a fortune in contracting security services to the U.S. Military, said in an interview with Breitbart that he will announce in the coming weeks whether he will challenge Barrasso in the Republican primary. He is not registered in Park County or [Wyoming] presently, unless he is not going by Erik Dean Prince and has changed his name, Park County Elections Deputy Pat Cole said in a Sept. 17 email; he said Prince hadnt voted in Wyoming since 2000. if (document.MAX_used != ',') document.write ("&exclude=" + document.MAX_used); And they - the purpose for - they themselves will launch this undercover operation and then, you know, secretly record you - audio, video - and then make a video out of it and, you know, expose what they describe as wrongdoing. Prince, the former head of Blackwater Worldwide and the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, has at times served as an informal adviser to Trump administration officials. In 2018, Ms. Jorge infiltrated the congressional campaign of Ms. Spanberger, posing as a campaign volunteer. Mr. Seddon launched his privately funded spying effort after leaving Project Veritas in 2018. 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